I wonder what was Jung's father situation..? Yes, he was angry and impatient but how far he had gone that he have to get help from professional people like Prof. Baek..? I think he kinda feel guilty for the both part. Guilty for baek sibling because of Prof. Baek helped him, guilty for Jung because of his genes?

Jung wasnt really worried about Joo Yong. I dont think he likes his "hyung" since he is kinda "indecent" (Like Jung says for the people who drinks) person. well.. maybe he really does have a grudge for him, like Joo Yong said at the first time that they drink together.

I've already posted this, but I want to do it again. xD (sorry)

Now that we know the truth behind what happened, it looks like all Jung did wrong was say Joo Yong gave them the alcohol, when really they took it from him.

Honestly, even if it was for revenge I don't see anything wrong with it. Sure, it's creepy for a child to be that calculating, but not uncommon. And honestly, I can't help but feel Jung is a good guy. He dislikes In Ho and In Ha for "leeching" off his father and taking advantage of his good will. Since his father cares too much, Jung has taken it upon himself to be the devil's advocate and draw the line.

Everything supsicious we've ever thought of Jung has been explained as a misunderstanding. Sure, he's calculating. But that just means he's smart, and he's not using his "abilities" for evil. Blackmailing AP to throw out his paper wasn't even that bad. I mean, AP STOLE from Jung. Jung could've reported him to the police, but instead used him to help Sul. Probably because he was curious about her/ respected her hard work and thought that while he could afford to pay for college she could not, so the scholarship was better off with her.

Also, if Jung's father was like Jung when he was younger yet grew up to be the nice, giving man he is today, why can't Jung? Already he's showing more of his father's side with Sul, constanly helping her out with schooling issues.

Also, for people saying that all In Ho and In Ha's problems are anger, you're mistaken. In Ha is truly crazy. D: Sure, anger is part of it, but you can get angry and shout like In Ho, or you can PHYSICALLY ATTACK SOMEONE OVER A SHIRT. THE HELL. So far, NOTHING Jung has done or SUPPOSEDLY did even compares to those siblings. All he's ever done is slightly manipulate a situation to his advantage, but he's never hurt anyone (that we know of). I'm starting to serioously suspect someone else hurt In Ho's hand because he's friends with Jung, so he's always blamed Jung for it.

To be honest, I'VE probably manipulated situations worse than Jung has, and I'm not a bad person.

AWESOME! I Totally didn't expect a flashback from Jung's father to suddenly show up in this context. It's strange how even though we have the full picture of what happened to that little girl, Jung could still avoid the blame: he suggested against drinking, and he wasn't the one who ripped the doll's head in the end. The only thing that was suspicious about him is that he didn't seem to care at all. But still... did he know that the girl would drink against his advice, and that she'd rip her doll just to share because he said he liked it? O.o;;

I wonder how Jung's father was like when he was young. He must have been messed up enough for Professor Baek to suspect Jung after just that doll incident. ... but yeah, Professor Baek should look after his own descendants first. >.> Still, Professor Baek was unable to look after them for long. I guess we'll also be getting flashbacks of Jung and the Baek siblings when they were younger eventually.

I hope the Neighbor gets off the hook soon, poor guy.

Whoa, we're already at Chapter 44! Season 1 had 46 chapters. Could we be near the end of Season 2?

The difference being Jung's dad (pardon my French) was called out on his shit early on.
Jung went unchecked. His dad thought Prof. Baek was overreacting.
Sul (to the extent) is having a really nice tempering effect on Jung though, or at least recently.


I'm not sure what to say. Anger is anger? She has serious anger problems, I never said she didn't, but she is definitely not a sociopath or psychopath either. She attacked a girl over a shirt, but that's the extent of it. Once she got dragged away, it got dropped from her mind. She didn't go back to get revenge. She deals with things as they come in her path. A sociopath would be much more cold and calculating.
I'm sure In Ha has serious self-esteem issues which is why she takes it out on everyone around her. In Ho is said to have talent with the piano. What does she have? She is told flat out that she has no artistic skill. She has no money. She has no name. There's no way she doesn't have some self-hatred that she just bottles up. She has a serious need for a psychiatrist though, no doubt about that. She needs help.
And, you can't call Prof. Baek a hypocrite and blame him for dying. If he managed to curb Jung's dad's issues, I'm sure if he had lived, he would've done the same for the siblings. Yes it's ironic they ended up turning out so messed up, but by no means is it hypocritical. The siblings anger is most definitely a byproduct of their rocky childhood growing up. I seriously doubt it's part of their core personality.

What's disturbing about Jung isn't the extent of what he did, but how well he carried it out considering how quickly he changed his mindset and at such a young (emphasis on young) age. I mean yeah, he has some problems with dealing with outsiders, but in comparison to the Baek sibling's scenario, that's chump change. Let's not kid ourselves, the good definitely outweighs the bad. And yet, he has a very large manipulative streak and shows little to zero remorse for all the things he did when he's like, what 8, 10 tops? This is the age where kids cry their eyes out watching movies like The Lion King or are terrified of villains like Cruella de Vil. They shouldn't be so adult in their manipulations.

In the span of one night he
1) Wooed a girl he had no idea how to deal with before, and got her to completely love him
2) Managed to grab a cup of alcohol and get the girl to suggest (he doesn't even do it himself) that they "both" drink it
3) Got the girl to tear her own doll in half, a doll she carried around with her everywhere
4) Framed another kid for the alcohol even though he had advised him before
5) Got wasted girl and everyone else to think Jung's the bee's knees
Btw, he did all of this cuz she broke his truck (which I'm sure with his money he could've gotten 10 other in its place).

His manipulations were carried out too brilliantly and flawlessly for him not to be mature enough to realize he's doing something wrong. Why else would he have blamed Joo Young for the alcohol? He knew he would've gotten in trouble if the truth came to light. He might not have understood the moral issues with his actions (which is a whole other can of worms), but he sure as hell knew he shouldn't get caught in the act.

Holy crap I typed a research paper. Okay I'm out LOL

Well, I don't think Jung's dad has monopoly on the truth and his judgement of his son is completely true and unbiased. We know from Jung that his dad pressures him a lot. We heard their phone talk when father disapproved Jung for wasting time on silly things which won't help him in the future. He has to know about uneasy relationships between his son and Baek siblings - and still forces Jung to visit In Ha in the hospital and pass presents to them. I can imagine there is a lot happening in background too. Remember, Jung stopped being friends with In Ha because she was tattling to his father about him - but for that to have an impact his father had to llisten In Ha, believe her and chide Jung after.

If that's how his dad tries to 'fix' Jung based on proffessor Baek's observation then I quite understand why Jung uses the same defensive mechanism against his dad too. Notice that he used his 'fake' smile instead of bragging about his pretty girlfriend - probably because he knows his father wouldn't approve her too.

But I'm more interested in Sul's and Jung's phone talk when he told her not to worry much and let things work out themself. What's that? Is he really disinterested? Or is he going to act behind the scene like he often does?

Oh, I never said she was a sociopath or psychopath. But something is really wrong with her. Normal people don't attack others over a shirt, and she's completely dependent on others to take care of her. Mentally, something is wrong with her.

And true, Jung carried out things a little too brilliantly considering his age. But that just means he's smart. That we know of, there's only one time he did something over the line (getting that girl drunk and blaming it on Joo Yong... and even that wasn't too over the top, a little alcohol can't hurt and Joo Yong was only scolded). And his "calculativeness" is just a brilliant kid. We haven't seen him do stuff like that anymore, so maybe he's grown out of it.

Point is, I just feel like people (not you, people in general xD) on judging Jung because he's incredibly clever. So he manipulates. He's never hurt anyone, and that's all that matters.

In my opinion, having uncontrollable rage (like In Ho or In Ha) is worse than being calculating. Because you could accidentally hurt (or maybe even kill someone) in a fit of rage. Not that I think In Ho would do that, but In Ha... you never know. She seems to get what she wants, or else.

I feel the Baek siblings' issues and Jung's are two sides of the same coin. Both are mismanagements of anger and emotion. While one side is coping by means of aggression and violence the other is smiling on the outside while festering on the inside, manipulating others to reconcile with the lack of control he has over his life (in terms of social pressures)

I don't know if it's just me, but I feel like the situation with Jung telling Sul "not to worry about things" and "talking about it doesn't solve anything" has happened before. I wonder if Jung has learned from his experiences that expression of emotion such as anxiety does no good and is no use doing. Because it seems that Jung was never encouraged to be honest about his feelings

and I just wanted to add to the doll issue: I think Jung was less upset about the girl breaking his truck and more about getting punished while she was coddled. children are very sensitive when it comes to fairness and in that situation it was unfair that Jung was the only one that got in trouble (and that her feelings were taken into consideration but not his). Jung's suggestion to break the doll because she broke his truck is another concept of fairness. this is a very normal situation among children. to me the real problem started when Joo Yong gave Jung that horrible advice. I don't think it's strange for Jung to pick it up so quickly, as children are like sponges when it comes to learning, and a lot of core values come from when we're younger and growing up. of course Jung isn't the way he is all because of Joo Yung, as it is suggested in this chapter that genetics may be a factor and Jung may have a predisposition towards personality disorder

I like your analyses! I think the fairness issue was pretty important too. In that flashback Jung was definitely upset about the injustice of a situation where he was punished for retaliating against someone who, from his point of view, attacked him. And I don't know about the adult Jung, but as a child anything he did wrong he could justify to himself as only fair because all the adults were on their side. (At least I imagine that's how it could have gone. I don't know if this is common everywhere, but as a child and even now I notice that children who usually behave are criticised more harshly for their mistakes than children who regularly misbehave.)

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