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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:27 pm 
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Thank you Yuko!!!! I love this chapter so much!!!!
It was interesting to see In ho thinking logically before throwing a punch (he had such nice timing). Although he couldn't think straight when the jerk insulted Sul.

But did anyone notice he punched him with his left hand? I wonder if that was a conscious choice to lesser the effect of the punch... but knowing In Ho it probably wasn't. If his hand is in really bad conditions he might hurt himself more than Young Gon.


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:48 pm 
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In Ho probably used his left hand out of instinct. He was so enraged by what Oh Young Gon said and just snapped I guess.

*nods* Sul did check the recording, it was pretty muffled. She hoped that he wouldn't find out...the creeper even did a little experiment to see if Sul really had a viable evidence of his disturbing actions.


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:20 am 
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thank you for the translation!! that was a good chapter, I loved watching stalker boy get is butt beat! :D :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:36 am 
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Thanks Yuko! I couldn't imagine what Young Gon could be saying for so long, but now that we have the translation, I see he is a classic stalker. He isolates her and tries to treat her as a special friend, and buy her drinks/food, while making comments designed to lower her self-worth. He never concludes that he needs to do more to apologise or to giver her space; he immediately comments that her behaviour is weird (wrong). He says she is average and doesn't suit Jung, he says that she's not popular and doesn't even know how to talk to guys, but she's also dirty and able to charm men and use them. And he says that Jung is a bad person and strange for liking her. Again he is trying to separate her from Jung (the best protection she could have from Young Gon on campus)

Wow. Now that is manipulation. He is truly frightening.

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But did anyone notice he punched him with his left hand? I wonder if that was a conscious choice to lesser the effect of the punch... but knowing In Ho it probably wasn't. If his hand is in really bad conditions he might hurt himself more than Young Gon.


That would actually increase the effect of the punch. I don't think his hand hurts anymore, I think it just doesn't work properly. Though it's possible it will hurt more afterwards. However, the strength will come from his left arm and shoulder which are still probably stronger than his right arm and shoulder. Unless his hand was really a problem, he would probably still golf and swing a bat like a left-hander (Ha! In Ho golfing!). I'll have to go back and see if there are any instances of him writing with his right hand. That would be very hard to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:15 pm 
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That would actually increase the effect of the punch. I don't think his hand hurts anymore, I think it just doesn't work properly. Though it's possible it will hurt more afterwards. However, the strength will come from his left arm and shoulder which are still probably stronger than his right arm and shoulder. Unless his hand was really a problem, he would probably still golf and swing a bat like a left-hander (Ha! In Ho golfing!). I'll have to go back and see if there are any instances of him writing with his right hand. That would be very hard to do.


It depends on what's wrong with it. I really wish we knew more. I can't remember if he was shown writing with it, but he couldn't hold an eating utensil and wasn't able to grab things (so most likely he writes with his right. It's not impossible, because left-handedness can be "corrected" although it's easier for children than adults) and he also cannot play piano anymore. Considering that, there are three possibilities: joint damage, nerve damage, or muscle damage. Joint damage would most likely be medically/surgically corrected at the time of the injury and since he can still move his fingers around, nerve damage is a bit of a stretch. That leaves muscle damage. His left shoulder cannot be stronger in this situation because we are born with equally capable muscles in both arms regardless of the dominance. What makes your dominant arm stronger is the fact that you use it more, so the muscles are slightly stronger after years of stronger pressure on the arm. If he couldn't use his left arm as a dominant one after the injury, it deteriorated along with the shoulder. Not only that but in order to punch someone correctly, shoulder is only used for speed and power, but the wrist is the core protected by the flex of the metacarpal and phalangeal bones. And most likely that where his major problem lies. In boxing and martial arts they always teach how to fold your hand correctly in order to withstand instant pressure. A good example would be if you hold your hand in a freezing water and then try to write with it or hold objects, you will notice how hard that would be and if at that time you try to punch someone/something, not only do you risk damaging your hand and fingers but you also risk braking your wrist. If you can't flex the muscles of the hand correctly, no matter how strong the punch is, it will hurt you more than the person you are punching.

I hope I'm wrong about this, though, and instead In Ho punches the stupid out of Young Gon. I don't want him to get hurt because of that jerk. Although.... it would be nice to see Sul worry and try to help injured In Ho; Trying to take him to a hospital; In Ho refusing (as all men do. seriously, what's up with men and medical treatments???); Sul rushing to a pharmacy; treating his hand; moonlight with candle light; slow music in the backg... ok, I'll stop now


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:58 pm 
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That would actually increase the effect of the punch. I don't think his hand hurts anymore, I think it just doesn't work properly. Though it's possible it will hurt more afterwards. However, the strength will come from his left arm and shoulder which are still probably stronger than his right arm and shoulder. Unless his hand was really a problem, he would probably still golf and swing a bat like a left-hander (Ha! In Ho golfing!). I'll have to go back and see if there are any instances of him writing with his right hand. That would be very hard to do.


It depends on what's wrong with it. I really wish we knew more. I can't remember if he was shown writing with it, but he couldn't hold an eating utensil and wasn't able to grab things (so most likely he writes with his right. It's not impossible, because left-handedness can be "corrected" although it's easier for children than adults) and he also cannot play piano anymore. Considering that, there are three possibilities: joint damage, nerve damage, or muscle damage. Joint damage would most likely be medically/surgically corrected at the time of the injury and since he can still move his fingers around, nerve damage is a bit of a stretch. That leaves muscle damage. His left shoulder cannot be stronger in this situation because we are born with equally capable muscles in both arms regardless of the dominance. What makes your dominant arm stronger is the fact that you use it more, so the muscles are slightly stronger after years of stronger pressure on the arm. If he couldn't use his left arm as a dominant one after the injury, it deteriorated along with the shoulder. Not only that but in order to punch someone correctly, shoulder is only used for speed and power, but the wrist is the core protected by the flex of the metacarpal and phalangeal bones. And most likely that where his major problem lies. In boxing and martial arts they always teach how to fold your hand correctly in order to withstand instant pressure. A good example would be if you hold your hand in a freezing water and then try to write with it or hold objects, you will notice how hard that would be and if at that time you try to punch someone/something, not only do you risk damaging your hand and fingers but you also risk braking your wrist. If you can't flex the muscles of the hand correctly, no matter how strong the punch is, it will hurt you more than the person you are punching.

I hope I'm wrong about this, though, and instead In Ho punches the stupid out of Young Gon. I don't want him to get hurt because of that jerk. Although.... it would be nice to see Sul worry and try to help injured In Ho; Trying to take him to a hospital; In Ho refusing (as all men do. seriously, what's up with men and medical treatments???); Sul rushing to a pharmacy; treating his hand; moonlight with candle light; slow music in the backg... ok, I'll stop now



Polkadot, In Ho probably will aggravate his injury with this punch. It would be a good way for Sul to find out why he can't use his hand and hopefully she will ask Jung to come to the hospital, rather than dwelling on it and trying to figure out what to tell him. Then they can all talk about In Ho's hand and what to do now. Maybe Sul can convince him to get physical therapy for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:41 am 
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Polkadot, In Ho probably will aggravate his injury with this punch. It would be a good way for Sul to find out why he can't use his hand and hopefully she will ask Jung to come to the hospital, rather than dwelling on it and trying to figure out what to tell him. Then they can all talk about In Ho's hand and what to do now. Maybe Sul can convince him to get physical therapy for it.


I like this scenario, too :D
I do hope it comes true (him getting hurt. As terrible as it sounds) because it would open up so many new possibilities for the plot


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:25 pm 
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:o :shock: :cry: Nooooooo I just found out that I have the same birthday than oh young gon ... Why ?????? does that mean we are the same :twisted: ? I don't wanna become a stalker T_T ... By the way, nice hit In ho ! you rock dude !
(and thanks Yuko for the release)


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:03 am 
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That guy makes a pretty good antagonist. Okay, maybe in the beginning Sul did overreact but forcing your opinion one someone who considered you a stalker, misunderstanding or not, isn't a great idea either. She doesn't owe him an explanation either when you think about it. He really doesn't listen either but if he isn't interested, why does he want to talk to her at a cafe? Can't he explain it there like the jealous girl who sent the homeless woman on Sul? Granted, she was pathetic but she knew when to take a hint.


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 Post subject: Re: Part 2 Chapter 38
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:22 pm 
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after reading this chapter i thoroughly feel sul will end up with in-ho at the end of series...
their chemistry always sparks whenever they meet unlike jung-sul where they go through a harder time...
sul looks lively with either of them.. :)
thanks yuko....

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